Poll: Is Mrs. Hawkings Faraday’s Mother?

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  1. Jimmeh Said:

    I am sceptical on this, because Faraday’s mother is at Oxford right? Wasn’t Ben in Los Angeles when he went to see Mrs. Hawkings?

  2. Ed Holden Said:

    I say yes. But that’s not what interests me the most about these episodes. In my opinion the most important line in the entire two episodes is when Daniel Faraday tells Hatch Desmond that the usual rules of time don’t apply to him. That’s a major reveal, possibly the underlying crux of the entire series. With this in hand, I think a lot else about the show and Desmond’s path are much clearer.

    I’ve long guessed that this whole show is about something that Douglas Adams called Temporal Reverse Engineering (let’s shorten it TRE). It’s a term that he coined for one of his sequels to the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy series. Basically, TRE involves manipulating events sequences for a desired end. That is, changing history, but on a grand scale via a multitude of minor manipulations. The manipulations can come in any form. For example, if you wanted to follow the Dharma Orchid station worker’s suggestion and kill Hitler, you would an indirect means. Rather than trying to kill him by shooting him yourself, you might set up a scenario involving unknowing participants – say, making sure some German inherits their uncle’s car, which then ends up in a car accident killing Hitler in the 1920s. And making sure Hitler is on that road by getting an urban planner promoted in the 1910s, leading to a construction project blocking other routes. And getting Hitler’s driver slightly drunk. And so on. The only requirement for TRE is … well, it’s a steep requirement: omniscience. You have to be able to see all possible outcomes in order manipulate events in this way.

    I suspect that this is what is going on in Lost. the minor manipulations that have led to the events on the island are sometimes plain: Libby being in Hurley’s hospital and giving Desmond her boat, a bus coming along at the same time Juliet’s ex-husband steps into the street, the many coincidences behind people’s off-island lives.

    Who’s pulling the strings? On the one side you have Mrs. Hawking, the monastery leader who recruited Desmond, Ben, and perhaps others. On the other side is Widmore (and again, perhaps others). Both sides are trying to achieve an outcome by changing history. EXCEPT, they can’t change history because of course correction, a feature of the universe that prevents meddling.

    But one day Widmore noticed that a particular events sequence involving Desmond would result in his becoming immune to course correction. Cue TRE: Desmond is recruited as a brotha, meets Penny, fails to get hired by Widmore, joins the military, goes to jail, decides to prove himself to Penny by sailing, and finally gets a boat from Libby and turns the failsafe key in the Hatch. Desmond then becomes a wildcard: everything he touches is potentially immune to course correction, thanks to the powers of the island.

    The results are immediate. The island is momentarily visible when the failsafe activates, alerting anyone who is looking for it. Widmore’s freigter mission is born. Then events on the island start to take a turn when Charlie, who should have died in the hatch implosion, is spat out onto the island again by the failsafe. Course correction kicks in within a short time, but Desmond thwarts it long enough to change the events sequence. Specifically, Charlie contacts the freighter before he dies.

    None of this explains what the island is or how it works, but I think it is the core concept undrlying the show.

  3. harry Said:

    ***COMMENT EDITED BY ADMIN***
    do you honestly think thats why he said the rules dont apply to you?
    he said it because desmond is his constant, he can tell him to do other things because he knows him in both present and future. thats why he can talk to him. desmond is not special in any other way if he was then sawyer would be able to talk to him instead he only opens it when daniel knocks, BECAUSE HE IS HIS CONSTANT!!!!

  4. Campetin Said:

    @ Harry: Personal attacks and insults are not allowed here, this is your last warning.

  5. BigW Said:

    I think she is, because that may also be the reason that Faraday knows more about Desmond, and i think Desmond is special, because of the fact that he traveled in time wheen the hatch exploded, and because he didn’t die from time travel like everyone else who has has died.

  6. Juidas Said:

    For me I think not because Faraday mother in Oxford and Mrs. Hawkings is in LA but LOL! LOST Time and place definition is CRAZY

  7. Sherazade Said:

    Maybe Ben called Ms Hawking to go to LA, in order to find the island. Dan didn’t know it! But Ms Hawking is probably british… She was in UK only to meet Desmond… or not?

  8. Lost-A-Natic Said:

    i for one am alittle blanked ? why on earth would she be dans mother i mean theres no clue to why she would be right ? i mean shes sounds english to me and dan is american right ?

    crazy

  9. Joe nahhas Said:

    Kepler (demolish) Vs Einstein’s

    Ending Einstein’s space jail of time in 2009 that led to fraud Symbol E=mc²

    Areal velocity is constant: r² θ’ =h Kepler’s Law

    h = 2π a b/T; b=a√ (1-ε²); a = mean distance value; ε = eccentricity
    r² θ’= h = S² w’

    S = r exp (ỉ wt); h = [r² Exp (2iwt)] w’=r²θ’
    w’ = (θ’) exp [-2(i wt)]

    w’= (h/r²) [cosine 2(wt) - ỉ sine 2(wt)] = (h/r²) [1- 2sine² (wt) - ỉ sin 2(wt)]
    w’ = w’(x) + ỉ w’(y) ; w’(x) = (h/r²) [ 1- 2sine² (wt)]

    Δ w’= w’(x) – (h/r²) = – 2(h/r²) sine² (wt) = – 2(h/r²) (v/c) ² v/c=sine wt
    (h/ r²)(Perihelion/Periastron)= [2πa.a√ (1-ε²)]/Ta² (1-ε) ²= [2π√ (1-ε²)]/T (1-ε) ²
    Δ w’ = [w'(x) – h/r²] = -4π {[√ (1-ε²)]/T (1-ε) ²} (v/c) ² radian per second

    {x [180/π;degrees]x[100years=36526days;century]x[3600;seconds in degree]
    Δ w” = (-720x36526x3600/T) {[√ (1-ε²]/(1-ε)²} (v/c)² seconds of arc per century

    This Kepler’s Equation solves all the problems Einstein and all physicists could not solve
    DI Her Binary starts systems

    The circumference of an ellipse: 2πa (1 – ε²/4 + 3/16(ε²)²- –.) ≈ 2πa (1-ε²/4); R =a (1-ε²/4) v=√ [G m M / (m + M) a (1-ε²/4)] ≈ √ [GM/a (1-ε²/4)]; m<<M; Solar system

    Advance of Perihelion of mercury.

    G=6.673×10^-11; M=2×10^30kg; m=.32×10^24kg
    ε = 0.206; T=88days; c = 299792.458 km/sec; a = 58.2km/sec

    Calculations yields:
    v =48.14km/sec; [√ (1- ε²)] (1-ε) ² = 1.552
    Δ w”= (-720x36526x3600/88) x (1.552) (48.14/299792)²=43.0”/century

    Conclusions: The 43″ seconds of arc of advance of perihelion of Planet Mercury (General relativity) is given by Kepler’s equation better than all of Published papers of Einstein. Kepler’s Equation can solve Einstein’s nemesis DI Her Binary stars motion and all the other dozens of stars motions posted for past 40 years on NASA website SAO/NASA as unsolved by any physics

    Anyone dare to prove me wrong?

  10. Heather Said:

    I absolutely think Hawkings is Faradays mom. I also think that she is “Ellie” the female soldier from 1954. That is why Daniel thought she looked so familiar… its almost too easy! Hawkings was def in a dharma station right before Ben came to see her in the church…..

    And just because Hawkings has an accent doesnt mean she couldnt have had her son in America…

  11. Joe nahhas Said:

    Einstein’s Physics Dollar Store on Campus
    MIT Harvard Cal-Tech
    Sponsored by NASA
    Why Relativity theory is not Physics and why Einstein’s “thought” = 0
    Walking the walk and talking the talk taking on all space-time confusion of physics by
    MIT Harvard and Cal-Tech and all other Physics dollar stores departments
    And why LHC burned itself

    Visual Effects and the confusions of “Modern” physics

    r ——— Light sensing of moving objects ——- S
    Actual object—– Light ——— Visual object
    r – ——-cosine (wt) + i sine (wt) – S = r [cosine (wt) + i sine (wt)]
    Newton– Kepler’s time visual effects — Time dependent Newton
    Particle ————– Visual effects ——————– Wave

    Line of Sight: r cosine wt

    r ——————- r cosine (wt) line of sight light aberrations

    A moving object with velocity v will be visualized by
    light sensing through an angle (wt);w = constant and t= time
    Also, sine wt = v/c; cosine wt = √ [1-sine² (wt) = √ [1-(v/c) ²]

    A visual object moving with velocity v will be seen as S

    S = r [cosine (wt) + i sine (wt)] = r Exp [i wt]; Exp = Exponential

    S = r [√ [1-(v/c) ²] + ỉ (v/c)] = S x + i S y

    S x = Visual along the line of sight = r [√ [1-(v/c) ²]

    This Equation is special relativity length contraction formula
    And it is just the visual effects caused by light aberrations of a
    moving object along the line of sight.

    In a right angled velocity triangle A B C: Angle A = wt; angle B = 90°; Angle C = 90° -wt
    AB = hypotenuse = c; BC = opposite = v; CA= adjacent = √ [1-(v/c) ²]

  12. Juidas Said:

    For me I think not because Faraday mother in Oxford and Mrs. Hawkings is in LA but LOL! LOST Time and place definition is CRAZY

  13. Joe Nahhas is an idiot Said:

    Stupid towelhead.

  14. Towelheads have no say Said:

    Joe Nahhas is a stupid towelhead.

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