Now that the writers have confirmed that Dan is dead confuses me more as to why did they have to show that video with Dan’s voice? Was it just to leave us pondering?

Loved the episode anyway. I’m afraid waiting for Season 6 is gonna be harder than the previous wait.

What your describing is the plot of Donnie Darko! Have you seen it? Great movie.

In any case, in Donnie Darko, a catastrophic event happens that causes a tangent universe (alternate timeline) that will ultimately lead to the end of time/destruction of the universe/etc. if certain key actions by various people aren’t taken. This is all detailed in “The Philosophy of Time Travel” and its only a six page book with huge text that everyone should read because the story it outlines is VERY similar to lost: http://giama.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/the-philosophy-of-time-travel.pdf

I’ll paraphrase here: A tangent universe occurs when a jet airplane engine falls out of the sky into Donnie Darkos room—he isnt there. Donnie Darko, referred to as the living reciever (possible Jacob substitute), must make sure certain things happen so that when the moment comes that a plane flys into a wormhole in the future and drops the jet engine on Donnie Darkos room in the past. If he does not make this happen then the universe will collapse. Donnie is guided by a spirit Frank. The spirit guide are people that will die in the tangent universe–called the manipulated dead. The spirit guide sets up a variety of “coincidences” that lead Donnie on the right path. The manipulated living are anybody that are close to Donnie, neighbors, friends, etc. who don’t know whats going on but are involved none-the-less. Once the primary universe is restored they wake up in their beds either without memory of what happened or they are haunted by their experience in their dreams.

Basically the biggest comparison to be drawn with Lost is that the time construct in both Donnie Darko and Lost is unstable and spirits or whoever are trying to guide “the variables” along a path that will restore the space-time continuum.

Is annoying if they do go against it but the statement from Carlton and Damon seems to confirm that he is very dead and not coming back.

The message from Eloise in the journal is very poignant and is a big hint to his death like half-way through the episode.

Also my girlfriend noticed that the beats he counts, 864, is 8 times 108. They just keep fitting those numbers in there!

Check out the vid on that page, pretty sure that it’s Daniel Faraday operating the camera….

That is a good theory! It seemed like “destiny” put everyone on 815, and what if “free will” can stop them from being on the plane.

interesting!

In other words.
The incident happens… hatch and button are built.. plane crashes… 815ers disrupt past present and future.
Richard and the others see this, but there is nothing they can do about it…
815 has violated and destroyed what made the island special
The one thing they can do, since they control time, is to go back in time, OFF the island, and manipulate WHO will be on flight 815.
That is why abbaddon is directing john locke to do the walkabout.
Perhaps there are circumstances like this for ALL the characters.
Perhaps, if the Others had not interfered in the lives of the people who eventually fly on or associated with 815, they [christian, yemi, alex, claire, etc] would be alive and well.
Since there was a timeline wherein they did exist, they still exist in someway [ghost] in this timeline.
Perhaps crazy…

The two weeks was rough!

I am loving getting more and more pieces to this puzzle!

I think that with Widmore, Eloise, Ben fighting..

Jacob is going to put his foot down!

He has let people time and time again mess up the island..and I think he is going to fix it once and for all!

Team Jacob:
Christian
Locke
Richard

Its really hard to place people on teams..but we will see after next weeks episode who stands where.

If Jack ever wanted to know what his destiny was..now is the time..

Now that Jack has no “Locke” or no “Faraday” only his journal, I am hoping the island has given him the tools to do what he needs to do. His fellow 815ers is all he has..they need to come together and do the “right” thing!

Will he find his purpose..and NOT destroy the hatch..

or

Will he want to land safely in L.A..

Once again faced with the decision to leave the Island…I hope Jack doesn’t make the same mistake twice!

P.S

I am reminded of the great quote from Spider Man:

“With great power, comes great responsibility”
-Uncle Ben

The island is very special..is there anyone responsible enough to harness and understand the power of the island?

I will absolutely stop watching lost if they kill juliet. she already doesnt do anything, leave her alone!

He must have written “desmond is my constant” in his journal when Desmond visited him because he knew he might need a constant in the future if his future self was sending someone back to his past self.

Juliet was wearing a red shirt..hmmmm…

The island did not completely heal him cause he still had memory problems with Charlotte in season 4.

Only 2 more weeks of season 5…so pumped.