OOOOOHHHHH i cant wait to see kate and juliet fight it out next week haha
that was an awesome episode
i cant wait to see how little ben's doing

im glad to see sawyer put jack in his place and lettin him know that he don't run sh*t anymore..

an episode without john lock............

not good, not good at all :(

Great episode, but there was a pretty big continuity flaw: Jack was reading John's letter, and I think Ben was still sitting beside Jack when the plane starts to crash... and I think the way the plane finally stopped is different from when we first saw it.

Also loved Radzinsky making the Swan station model.

WOW. That was incredible (aside from the super cheesy plane landing). But I think Lost is at its best when it's developing character plots with a hint of the island mystique tossed in. But I do have some concerns: first of all, why was such a big deal made out of Jack being given the job workman? I mean, besides that his aptitude would obviously be much much higher...remember when they first found the Dharma van back in the present-past? Wasn't there a skeleton with "workman" on the label? Or was that Roger workman? Is Jack going to die in the purge? Are they all going to die in it? Is that how the show will end? Because if it does, I swear to God...... And my other larger concern, is the fact that show is dividing our Lost family. Please tell me this is just a phase they have to go through to prove their motto "live together, die alone" in the long run. Because I really hate this "every man for himself" crap. The only way these guys are going to survive is together. So hopefully next week's is a reminder to our characters of that. Otherwise the show is in the tank. Minus the sci-fi portion, the rest of the show is built upon these characters surviving by relying on one another. If they stray from that permanently, they will have lost sight of everything the writers, and their truest fans have come to know for the past 4 years. Still an incredible episode though. And Ethan!!@ EEEK! Juliet looked like she was gonna crap her pants when Amy said his name.

I thought it was a good episode. But man does next week look amazing...I'm really interested into seeing what happens with Sun, Frank, and Christian.

P.S. Hurley always delivers the best lines....
Sawyer: "Because it's 1977".
Hurley: "Uhhh, what?"

This episode sets us up for next week when all heck breaks lose. It was cool to see Jack's reaction to the changes in Sawyer! Sawyer is the man!!

oh god the plane landing makes me.. nauseous :/

but, a long journey ahead of sun and frank?!
what could this mean, WHEN are they?
the barracks are boarded up, deserted. scary

My friend and I were throwing this question around...why were Sun, Frank, Locke, and Ben all excluded from traveling back in time with the rest of the group? I feel like it might have something to do with them already being in the past...young Ben was, and perhaps Pierre Chang's baby might be Sun? A bit of a long shot considering Frank and Locke would have to be there too, but I'm curious nonetheless.

and ben yet again delivers the best line - "so how did all that work out?"...

I can't wait to see what happens with Sun, Frank and Christian.. could there be another wheel turnage?

Loved the episode. Hope Kate ends up alone. I don't think she deserve neither Jack or Sawyer

Yeah, coz she deserves me lol

I knew it was Ethan! I thought this was a good episode- and sure, the plane crash CGI was poor, but who cares? I still enjoyed it. I also like how Sawyer is now the leader, and Jack never wanted to be and doesn't have to anymore. But it wasn't fair of Sawyer to blame Jack for Boone, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko, Charlie, Nikki, Paolo, Arzt, etc. Anyhow, I'm interested to see what Sun has to do to get to Jin. Also, I don't really like the way the Losties are acting towards each other- I hope that ends.

Great episode not quite on par with some others from this season but a great set up for next week which looks to be pretty exciting.

Ok so back in S3 when Kate and Sawyer were in captivity and they were helping build what appeared to be a runway. Now if this is the same runway Frank landed the plane on then who finished it? I dont remember the runway being finished when Kate and Sawyer got away.

Cool to see Radzinski for the first time. He was building the Swan model in 1977 so when was the Swan built? It must have been early to mid 80's so what made them wait so long to build it? And he must hae been like 70 or so when he finally killed himself.

Why is Hurly keeping that guitar case? There must be more than just a guitar in there or he wouldnt hang on to it this long would he? And even more important what happened to Faraday??? Is he dead? Did he turn the wheel??

I wonder how Sun and Frank are going to get to 1977? And what year are they really in i thought 2008 but now im not soo sure after seeing New Otherton the way it is all boarded up and what not.

This weeks best line was a tie between Hurly's "Oh....What?" and Ben's "And how did that turn out for them".

Just to clear up some things (and correct if I am wrong):
Rolo:Jack did have John's letter in his hands but that letter quickly went to his side as soon as the turbulence hit so it that would likely explain why it may have not there. Ben had gotten up to give Jack some time alone to read John's letter. So that is why he was not there.
cdncr: Jack being a workman was likely Juliet's way of making sure they keep a low profile. But you can read more into it if you want.
The skeleton was "Roger Workman" Ben's father.
"Pierre Chang’s baby might be Sun?" Dr. Chang's baby is a boy, as we saw in the Comi-con video he says to 'Lara' to just take 'him' outside, referring to the crying baby. That is why many speculate his baby is Mile's. Likely he was born on the island since Daniel suggested that he might have been on the island before.
The biggest thing is finding out more about Radzinski. We know that he actually survived the purge somehow and actually designed the Swan station. Did he lock himself in the Swan station to avoid the purge? Or was he working in the Swan station while it happened and was waiting for a replacement that never came?
I think Daniel is "Lost" in his mind again, like he was with his caretaker. He has episodes like this, where he gets amnesia to the point that he becomes mentally unstable. I think he's sitting in a corner somewhere rocking back and forth. But will come back to the real world at some point. Likely a side affect of his experiments at Oxford, like what happened to his girlfriend.

Back to what someone said earlier about why didnt the other people flash. I think it's because they didn't recreate the first plane crash. Hurley had a guitar, Jack had a dead body, Sayid in handcuffs, and Kate pregnant.

I loved the episode and had to watch it again. But I am really confused.
what happened to faraday
how long has young ben been on the island
wouldnt juliet, sawyer, miles run into young ben
do any of the characters talk to each other. like how they all ended up on the plane. that the woman who told jack how to get back to the island was faradays mother.
where is charles widmore, if he was 17 in 1950 something, he must be 37ish in 1977

i cant wait for next week, I wish ABC hadnt robbed us of a week!

Okay so this is what i think. Juliet came in with the list saying, "Hey, i just got the revised list from Ann..." or something like that, saving Kate ass. So,... she had just finished remaking the list and Sawyer said that Juliet would take care of everything, so why would she forget to put Kate's name on the list? Because she didn't!!!! Jack was already on the original list!! Think about it, we didn't hear them call Hurley's name at all because they called Jack first, then Juliet came with the list. And Ben as a kid could answer a lot of things, well not really, but one thing it could open up is that he had already meet everyone when he was younger and some how knew what happens later in the future, which would help answer the question of how and why does Ben know so much about everyone! That would also answer why Ben knew they had to build a runway. I think the Jack thing is true, the Ben thing is reaching but hey, that's why we call it theories. What do you think?

I just want to reiterate how perfect the kid who plays young Ben is. He pulled off the creepy eye gaze thing SO LIKE MICHAEL EMERSON that it made me stop and STARE and be like, holy crap, that kid's kinda scary.

What an awesome episode!

As I wait for it to come iTunes. The scene that shocked me the most..was at the very beginning..

"Thirty Years Later"

I am wondering why is Sun in the future. What happened? With Christian..?

Very interesting and awesome plot turn..

It looks like Sawyer put Jack in check!.

Christian said.

"I am sorry, you have a long journey ahead of you"

What does that mean?..

The return of "young Ben"!..

I love this show!

Nice episode! I like Jack being put in his place by Sawyer a lot... How come after 3 years, knowing what happened to Locke and everyone else, he still has the nerve to try to tell Sawyer what to do...

I like him less and less...

And I think Sun is in the future for the same reason Ben is: They were not supposed to come back!

I guess another question I have is when does Desmond become involved again?

Oh, and Hurley looking at Jin, "Dude, your English is awesome." That was funny

Forgot a few other things:
Did Ben already run into the woods and see Richard? If so Ben might be already sympathizing with the others. I think he went to Sayid to see if he was a hostile, and if he thinks he is he will help him escape.
It is an interesting thought about Ben learning all he can from Jack, Sawyer, Kate....and then using it to gain Richard's loyalty and eventually his obedience. Everything Ben knows, the power that Richard thinks Ben has, could have all come from the O6. Just imagine Ben as a kid goes to Richard and says I know about John Locke, I know about Widmore(who was possibly leading them at the time), and I know about Jacob. Richard could believe that he was the chosen one to lead them and not Widmore.
It is possible they all die in the purge, but they are all still alive in the real world, and will all get on to flight 316 in 2004. When the plane crashes, Ben knows who will survive the crash, and has all their histories because he grew up with them. I'm going off track now...

Was Christian brought back to the island on Oceanic Flt 815, and resurrected like Locke was and(flashed to the future) now they are both (Locke and Christian)30 years in the future.

Theory: Any one that is resurrected is "flashed" into the future..

I would like to see how that unfolds..

OK.
Not particular to THIS episode, but overall...

We shouldn't let Damon and Carlton get the best of us. We need to show them we are not forgetting about it.
The box. What did Ben remove from the vent in the hotel room in the season premiere? What was in that box?? I am guessing this is going to come into play in the finale somehow but I want to know now!

So Justin Locke, what is it that John Locke had to do to recreate the plane crash, considering he is the dead guy Jack has on the plane to recreate the plane crash?

@ commandojay i think your on the right track, i began to come to this conclusion when i realised what the runway was built for.

What nobody has brought up yet, and maybe it was just nothing, But what was the deal with the tree monster? And, Did anyone else notice the errie mist that flung the door open and changed the lighting on sun? Was that supposta be the essance of jacob? A time loop deal like eathan shooting locke?....And why did they show sun in that way when christian said she had a long journy ahead? a journy beyond the grave?....ideas?...


oh and @ Aaron.....whats in the box?....The coumpass that richard gave lock to give back to him?....or did he already give it back?

I was just blown away...
Thoughts:

What is up with Sayid's outfit?

The thing that says "Thirty Years Earlier"... so we know LaFleur and the gang are in 1977. So flight 316 is in 2007. But... why did it change from night to day after the flash happens and they are trying to land on the island?
The plane must have time traveled too, at least a little bit.

Frank: Where's everyone else? Jack n' Kate, n' Hurley.. where'd they go?
Ben: They're gone.
Frank: Gone where?
Ben: How would I know?
me: Because you were there you lying *#**#**!!

Sawyer-Hurley hug was awesome.

The voice of the actor that plays Radzinski reminds me a little bit of Paul Giamatti.

I think it's interesting how in earlier seasons, "the others" acted in ways that didn't make sense... they weren't honest, etc... now, we have the original losties behaving in this same way to a degree.

Sun asks Ben if Jin is on the main island.
Ben says he doesn't know... but that is where he would start looking.
But... Ben does know. He remembers Jin from his childhood.

Is it just me, or is Jack not as likable as he used to be?
I can't put my finger on why.

Perhaps this is known, but is the smoke monster only seen on the main island, and not the little periphery island?

hey can anyone answer why there is barely any desmond this year?
cuz hes like one of the best characters, its a shame that he's been in only a few eps so far

why is nobody worried by the most disturbing evidence in the episode that the losties indeded CHANGE the timeline? did you look at the barracks? they look as if the others never took over them, dharma logos on the doors, signs and pictures hanging from the walls... unless it is an apparition like jacob's cabin, it MUST mean the future was changed by the events we now witness in 1977! will there ever be a purge now?

Another thing I just thought of...where, and more importantly, when the heck are Rose/Bernard and the other remaining original 815-ers???? What have they been up to for three years??

I thought it was funny the way Jack acted when the darma guy assigned him to do a janitorial duty.

i think it was funny to see the smoke monster wandering in the jungle not killing lapidus like the first pilot, because lapidus was supposed to be on the island..
young ben is fucking creepy.. he will kill so many people, i think he already knows sayid isn't a hostile because he hangs out with them..
kate better be not be rude to juliette, cause she's the one to deliver her baby in time :D

to carmel
The barracks of Otherville have been desereted for three years now (2004-2007). And considering the climate on the island the houses would wear down quickly without maintenance.

My theory for Bernard, Rose and the other 815's people:
Remember they were also time traveling.
There is a time when we see some Ajira Bottles THATS 2007!! so my guess is these people stopped time traveling at that time! so they are in 2007 probably with the "others" and Richard.

How? (this may sound a little crazy but... remember the temple who was the last safe place. well i think they found it and manage to enter... and there the flashes dont affect them, so Richard told them to stay inside until the flashes stopped. Richard knew Locke would stop the flashes by turning the wheel )

So Sun and Lapidus or maybe Locke and 316's people may encounter them with Richard and the others?

what do you guys think?

@tidus,
thats a solid theory. I am really curious to see where Bernard/Rose/Vincent went

And I don't think the compass is what was in ben's box in the vent. Locke gave the compass to Richard who returned it to Locke. How would it have gotten into Ben's hands? Anyone know what was in that box?

I'm not sure what was in the box but I believe that Ben still has it with him in his pack that he carries. Maybe tidus is right and that the Temple is "immune" to the flashes. This could be why Ben went for the riggers and the main island when Caesar said that the Hydra was deserted. He could be trying to get what was in the box to Richard, the Temple, or safety.

Thanks

OMG!!! there is another person with Christian, Lapidus and Sun when she sees the picture. Look behind Sun
Check 35:05-35:10
who is that? doesnt look like Jacob

I dont know about the box but i bet he has it in his backpack like 5 star said.

and i hope to find soon what Sawyer told Kate befor jumping out of the helicopter

@ tidus: good eye at spotting sum1 behind sun.
It looks like Charlotte to me.. a hint of red hair, short sleeves like she was wearing when she died.. i think its Charlotte..