Gitsie Girl’s Thoughts on Episode 5.08 “LaFleur”
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1. We know from past dialog that there is going to be an “incident” that changes things on the island (like fertility presumably). I originally thought that Jughead was going to start to leak, but I’m now wondering if the Losties have to do some crazy donkey wheel turning event to propel themselves back into the present time. My guess is that it’s before the big DI purge as by leaving that will give the Losties a whole new sense of guilt for not staying to help. I’m also guessing that Daniel is going to have to convince them that they can’t change the past and therefore the Losties cannot interfere with the purge. I can see this being especially hard for Sawyer as he is their head of security and from the looks of things he really cares about these people (like begging Juliet to help Amy deliver the baby).
2. I think that the O6 had to come back because each has a specific role that they will play and they must be there for the course of events to happen. Course correction. Do we know what that is yet? I don’t think so. In an interview awhile back Darlton said we wouldn’t find out until late Season 5 into Season 6 why they had to come back. In the meantime, I’ll sit back and enjoy watching Sawyer’s evolution (go home Kate! He’s doing great!)
3. It must have been very strange for whoever found the rope just sticking out of the ground. Could this have possibly been what lead someone to dig the well, find the cavern and eventually to digging the Orchid Station?

4. The giant statue is holding a giant Ankh. Coincidence? It’s the same symbol that was on Paul’s necklace.
5. I’ll tell you why I think the turning of the donkey wheel caused the statue to crash. After the flash Miles says that “that one was more like an earthquake.” Unless anyone has a better explanation, I’m thinking that an earthquake would be a reasonable explanation for a statue going down.
6. For any doubters, the spelling for this episode is “LaFleur.” I’ve heard some chatter about this and maybe there are alternatives, but for us this is the correct spelling.
7. I’m curious how they buried the bodies of the hostiles so quickly. They don’t have shovels. The logistics of it doesn’t make sense.
8. I think Mr Friendly may have been trying to call a truce with the Losties back in Season Two where they meet up with Locke and company out in the woods. Mr Friendly says that it’s their island and they allow them to stay there (I remember thinking at the time that they should just let them go home then…). Part of the problem with that truce is that the Losties refused to stay put and were always traipsing around the island.
9. OK so the “Internest” says that the mothers always give birth on the mainland. The possibilities are that there have been problems giving birth or that these peace loving hippies have enough common sense to get their people proper health care. Either way, it’s a good thing for Amy that Juliet was there.
10. I wonder if who the baby is even matters. But, if it does then I think it would have to be one of the male characters in his 30’s. That would be Jack, Sawyer, Ben or Desmond. It’s not Ben because we were witness to his birth. My guess would be either Jack or more likely Desmond since we know he is “special.” Plus, we really know nothing about Desmond’s parents.
11. I can also see why Richard would specifically recruit Juliet back to the island as she may be the last person who delivered a baby on the island.
12. Look how cute Sawyer looks when he’s all happy and stuff. Yes! I like this version!
13. OK, so Sawyer does say that they were looking for the Black Rock, not on it. But has Horace really not heard of the boat? He seems to know later on when he brings back the dynamite.
14. How can the little girl Daniel sees be Charlotte? They are in 1974 and it was said earlier on that she was born in 1979. The only reason I can think of is that in her mother’s effort to cover their tracks and change her identity post-island was to also change her DOB so that no one would know that it was her.
15. I’m thinking that Sawyer’s revelations to Richard about who he was and talking about Locke is what turns Richard around and has him send for Locke (remember the “science camp” that they tried to recruit “high school Locke” to go to?). If Locke “failed” the test when he was a young boy Richard may have been doubting that Locke was special. Then along comes Sawyer and restores his faith in Locke.

16. Looks like things have also changed for Juliet. When we first met her she was burning muffins that she tried to make for the book club. Now she’s making Sawyer a big meal.

17. Didn’t Patchy say that he was one of the last remaining DI? He even still wore the jumper. We haven’t seen him yet. Will be curious if they bring him into the story.
18. I wonder where Jin called Sawyer from? He only had a walkie and no cell phones.
19. I’m thinking that Sawyer will have to say that Jack and co. are his long lost ship mates. Hurley might be hard to explain as he kind of sticks out. And where the heck are Rose and Bernard… and Vincent!
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5.03 “Jughead”: Initial And Afterthoughts By Gitsie Girl
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March 8th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Liked pretty much all of your ideas especially that the baby could be Desmond which is very interesting. However I don’t think the last flash made the statue fall because only the losties have ever noticed or felt the effects of the flashes so i don’t think it has ever affected the environment, and patchy was lying when he said he was a member of the dharma initiative.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I love this version of Sawyer too <3 especially the straight hair, god he’s so sexy like that!
I just think that “LaFleur” is not the best name they could pick (I mean “Flower”, doesn’t match with Sawyer : THE MALE!).
Oh and Suliet are soo cute, it’s definitely the best couple of the rectangle!
March 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Why does everyone think that the dynamite that Horace was throwing around is from the Black Rock? If the DI could provide rifles and ammo, why should they not have fresh and stable dynamite? And if you rewatch episode 5.01 the chief-miner even asked Dr. Chang if they should blast through the wall.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
30′s? Where did you get that number from? The baby is born in 1977 and when the flight had crashed he would have been 27. It’s not Ben because like you said, we already witnessed his birth. The two people who looked 27 were Hurley and Boone. Hurley is already on the island so I think its Boone. Also Desmond is Scottish.
Also I wasn’t thrilled to see Kate back on the Island now that Sawyer is with Juliet. I think she doesn’t screw the relationship Sawyer and Juliet are in now.
Also I already posted this theory on the lostpedia forum but would like to share it here too
March 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
At least I wasn’t the only one who thought of Boone.
I like the “Sawyer restores Alpert’s confidence” theory. The math adds up and everything.
If that girl is Charlotte, then she would have been 34 or 35 when she died. That doesn’t seem right to me.
March 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Name
Boone Carlyle
Date of birth
1982
Date of death
1 November 2004
(“Do No Harm”)
Origin
Malibu, CA, USA
March 10th, 2009 at 12:32 am
A couple problems with a couple theories. First, Sawyer’s conversation with Richard is unlikely to have inspired Richard to recruit young Locke into science camp. Locke was born in 1956, and likely already graduating by 1974 (when Sawyer and Richard have their talk).
Also, the baby, born in 1977, would be 27 by the time of the O815 crash, which means it cannot be Sawyer, who’s stated his age as 36, or Desmond, who in 1995 was in a monastery after a 6 year relationship (which he likely did not begin when he was 12). Jack also appears too old. I think it could be Claire’s old boyfriend, who happens to be Aaron’s father – which makes him significant anyhow.
Finally, we’re unlikely to see Mikhail, who was fighting in Afghanistan through the late ’80s (he also said he was lying about being part of DI).
November 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Name
Boone Carlyle
Date of birth
1982
Date of death
1 November 2004
(“Do No Harm”)
Origin
Malibu, CA, USA