Please welcome our third and final recapper for the season: Gitsie Girl.
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Here is part one of a VERY loooong blog post. My Lost brain is in high gear and with two episodes to recap I think I need to break it down. I’m pretty excited about this season and thankful that things are starting to come together. Our obsessive breaking down of the episodes is paying off now in double time. If you can make it to the end of this post, please leave your thoughts and comments and come back tomorrow (or later tonight if I really get to obsessing) for my recap of “The Lie.”
1. Maybe the reason the O6 must ALL go back is because of course correction. If Des hadn’t been late in pushing the button that fateful day then the plane would have went on it’s way to LA and landed safely. This is how fate meant it to be so all 6 must be there to fly back and land safely in order for the course of events in time to put upright again. Therefore, FRANK will also have to be the PILOT because he was originally supposed to be flying the plane (as he told us).
2. However, if the Losties need to leave safely as the original group then that would mean that Dan, Miles, Charlotte and JULIET would not be able to leave with them. I could see Dan and the gang staying to re-start DI but Juliet… if Sawyer grows to care for her (which seems inevitable at this point) and then he has to leave her behind? Ugh, I don’t know how that will play out for him. Seems like it would be a heart-wrenching choice but not really a choice as they all must be saved which means Sawyer could not chose to stay behind with her.
3. Could the baby in the beginning be Miles? He was chosen by Widmore to come back with the “rescue” operation and probably not just because he sees/hears dead people. Seems like when Naomi was questioning Mr Creepy Eyes about why the would chose such a rag-tag group to go with her to the island, there would have to be a plausible reason why. Also, women who have babies die on the island before giving birth. Wouldn’t this make the baby “extra” special if it was born there?
4. There have been many references throughout the seasons about an “incident” on the island. We know that the energy behind the wall being drilled in the Orchid Station, well, according the Candle if it were released, “God help us all.” I think Dan may have caused the “incident” and that is what fried his brain. We know he was there and we know that his memory is mush so it seems possible that he was the creator of the “incident.”
5. I wasn’t sure Dan was hiding his face from Candle (aka Pierre Chang) but I want back and watched the video shown at Comic Con and now I think he was. Dan for sure is the one video taping here (you can hear his voice) and you can hear th baby in the back ground. It makes much more sense now as Dan must have told Candle what was going to happen to DI and the way to save them. But…. he also says something to the effect of changing the past, but he as much as called the construction supervisor an idiot for suggesting that you could change the future. So was the video perhaps made for Locke or for Desmond to see since they seem to be the two that might be able to alter the future?
6. If Dan was “traveling” to the island then it would make the scene with Dan and the supervisor amusing as he says, “Did you hear that? Time travel, how stupid does he think we are?” Dan just has this look on his face and nods… Context makes all the difference, doesn’t it?
7. Ben tells Locke that he is sorry for making his life so miserable. At first glance we think it’s a reference to island life. But what is Ben is really referring to Locke’s “whole” life? We know Richard has been around 3 or 4 times in John’s life prior to the island so it’s definitely possible that it was their version of the Truman Show, orchestrating events and making sure Locke was on the right path.
8. Another possibility of what the “incident” was… the wheel somehow gets exposed. Dan knows it’s buried in the wall in the past when they are digging. Maybe Dan is the one who blows out the wall and exposes the wheel since he knows it has to do with time travel and he is obsessed with time travel. Candle says it would release something horrific if they kept drilling in the wall. The contractor knows where to place the detonators and doesn’t believe in time travel so I’m sure it would be easy for Dan to talk him into blowing up the wall.
9. Did the island somehow get moved ahead just a few minutes in time and that is why it can’t be found? Does the electromagnetic events (like Desmond’s turning the key) somehow correct the island in time and that is why it could be found and seen?
10. In the first scene with Locke after the donkey wheel is turned, why does just Locke move in time? He is standing there talking to Richard and The Others, why didn’t they move? All of the Losties on the island moved together (Sawyer and the gang) why not Richard’s group?
11. Do attorney’s and their associates really go to people’s houses to collect blood? Seems first of all like a qualified skill, something a phlebotomist would do. But I agree with Sun, the attorney wouldn’t show up to the house in private, they would have her somewhere public to do the test. I also think Ben could have easily have put these attorney’s up to scaring Kate so she will do what she knows best, run. Where better to run to and take Aaron so no one would find her then the island? After all, outside of Aaron, what does she really have back home?
12. Kate still keeps a picture of Jack and Aaron on the table? How many of you out there that are broken up with your child’s parent keep a picture of them on your front table? I can see keeping it in your kid’s room and keeping albums of pictures, but out by the front door? Someone is obviously still carrying a torch for him.
13. Thinking back a few seasons, remember that Eko and Jin and walking through the jungle and come across some of the Others and they are traipsing through the woods with no shoes on? Now we see Sawyer with no shoes on? First of all… OUCH! Second, instead of looking for a shirt, why wouldn’t he be more interested in shoes? I’m not complaining…
14. I like the way Sawyer is playing surrogate for the viewers and asking the questions about time travel. I agree with Dan that I doubt someone like me could fully grasp it, but the explanations we have are somewhat understandable.
15. Dan says the island is dislodged from time and skips like a record player. This reminds me of Danielle’s message that had been also playing the same message over and over for 16 years.
16. Ethan comes across this guy in the jungle who says Ben appointed him to be their leader, then the guy disappears right in front of his eyes. Ethan goes back and tells the Others. X-years later here comes the plane and who is on it, John Locke! Yes, I’m sure that when Danielle caught Ben in her net he WAS coming the meet John!
17. Speaking of disappearing people, could time travel have something to do with the “dead” people we’ve seen on the island? When Christian appears to Jack, could it have been the Others somehow projecting him to the future (would explain how he just disappears)? There was also Dave, the black horse, Walt (although he’s not dead), Locke’s mom, Boone, Ana Lucia, and Yemmi.
18. This also brings me to the idea that time travel might have something to do with the Whispers. I haven’t been able to hammer out a complete theory on this yet as the Whispers are actually talking about the people so if they were phantoms of real people slipping by in time I’m not sure why we wouldn’t also see them.
19. Another thought, remember the guy Lenny who was in the institution with Hurley who kept repeating the magic numbers? I’m thinking this guy was also a worker on the island who was around during the “incident” and it also fried his brains.
20. Three years later and Sun is still wearing her wedding ring.
21. This is weird, it looks like the word “chicken” was photoshopped and put the right way in the puddle. It’s a reflection so shouldn’t it be backwards or distorted? I don’t think it means anything besides the writers or editors being silly. Also, Hurley is on the run and wanted for murder but they still take the time to pick up chicken. Priceless. Then Hurley’s line to Sayid, “You know maybe if you ate more comfort food, you wouldn’t have to go around shooting people.”
22. Every time I saw Sayid and Hurley together I kept hearing the theme from the Odd Couple. Neil Simon couldn’t have come up with a more mis-matched duo then these two!
23. Locke is the only one that can stop the time from moving or so we would believe. When Sawyer asks who can stop it the next flash is to Locke.
24. How does Richard find Locke? Unless there is some predictable way that time moves and Richard understands this. Then he would have calculated based off of when Ethan came back to the camp and spoke of shooting the mysterious Locke. Kind of like when Desmond told Penny to be home on Christmas Eve 2004 because he was going to call her.
25. Now the issue of the compass and Locke dying. The compass may not be the “same” compass that Richard showed Locke when he was a kid, but it has to have significance to that scene. Here is a link to a clip of the scene. I hate to bring up the time loop theories (go back to season one, there are lots of them out there, including by me), but it could somehow come to play here. Time loops back around so Locke can correct it? But why would Richard say the knife wasn’t his “yet?” This is still a mystery to be unlocked (no pun intended).
26. Does Locke really die? Ben never answers. Right after Jack asks Ben it flips to Hurley’s dad watching Expose, the show Barbie was on. Ken and Barbie were bit by spiders and *looked* like they were dead but they were only paralyzed. With no traceable heart beat they thought they were dead. Maybe Locke has to look like he’s dead because the island won’t let him back if he’s alive. The writers have said that Ken and Barbie were more than just an annoyance and somehow an integral part of the story, could this be it!
27. I don’t think that Dan means that Sawyer literally can’t meet Desmond. I think he’s telling him he can’t change the past, or shouldn’t change the past. Des obviously hears him because he comes out and asks why he’s making all that noise on the door (to Dan). Plus, if Des is freaked out by Sawyer then he wouldn’t be listening to Dan when he tells him about going to Oxford.
28. Dan tells Desmond he is uniquely special. Then Desmond wakes up and suddenly he remembers the talk with Dan. I don’t think that Dan changed the past necessarily but since Desmond is special somehow Dan created a new memory at that moment. Also, Desmond’s seeing the future is nothing more than like when Dan changes the past by talking to him at the hatch, he suddenly “remembers” the event. Maybe the events are taking place in the future and Des being special all of a sudden “sees” the future while in some “time” it’s actually happening. Des is there to course correct and make sure current events lead up to the future that he is “seeing.”
29. Speaking of course correction, Des stopped Charlie from being KILLED several times but he allowed him to live long enough to push the button and consequently several of the Losties left the island. Mrs Hawkins is the one who introduced the concept of course correction so it makes sense that they all have to go back because of course correction. Whatever is going to happen,they all have to be there. Charlie should have died one of those times and therefore the six would have never left. Now that has to be corrected.
30. And for the record, I think Mrs Hawkins might be Dan’s mother.
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January 24th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Great write-up.
The “Chicken” sign reflection is actually correct. It just looks funny (readable) because the visible letters happen to look the same upside down as they do right side up.
January 25th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Thanks for this review great work keep it up.
January 25th, 2009 at 3:13 am
In terms of #16, I’m not sure Ethan could have told Ben about Locke because this seems as if if would violate the rule of changing the past.
My question though is why doesn’t Desmond recognize Dan at the door because haven’t they already met previously when Des visited Dan at Oxford?
January 25th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Jim Said: My question though is why doesn’t Desmond recognize Dan at the door because haven’t they already met previously when Des visited Dan at Oxford?
Yeah that is killing me too. I guess that everytime you change someone’s past(Desmond changed Daniel’s past, remember the notebook?) you end up forgetting those “changes” (meeting him in Oxford).
Do I make any sense?
January 25th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Great recap. I like what you said in #26. If the island is moving at a different pace then the rest of the world it would explain a lot about all these “dead” people. Christian’s “timeline” went back to when he was alive, Locke’s went back to when he wasn’t paralyzed. Maybe thats what happens to John off the island: he dies on the island, someone moves him to the outside world and he is still alive, where his timeline hasn’t been to his death next. Then, when his outside world timeline caught up to him, he died there too. It might even look like suicide… Anyway, cool theories.
January 25th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
great read thanks so much xxx
January 26th, 2009 at 1:04 am
lol what if Dans mom is named Eloise like the mouse ha ha, Ben n Mrs.hawking seemed to b in la its not like he could a traveled to oxford to learn that he has only 70 hours to bring them all to the island. and the whole time line thing is what Ive been thinking for the last few seasons with christian coming back to life and all that i think 5star is spot on
January 26th, 2009 at 1:12 am
oh and with Desmond think of it like, at that point in the “past” he hadn’t yet met all them and didn’t have his “the constant episode” yet so in the time line he hadn’t yet gone back in time even tho in the over all picture of things he ends up doing that, Dan is saying that when you go back in time what you did is what happened so that meeting outside the hatch would be the first time they met , the time at oxford would have been second. Dan actually used Desmond as a constant first. so the theory is that time is Linear but not the sense of linear most of us understand
January 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
people on the island who see ‘dead’ people must have had some previous ‘path of life’ crossing. For instance, the reason Jack sees his dad is their lives are intertwined, Juliet sees Mrs. Goodwin, John sees Richard, Walt, Christian, Claire, etc. In most cases, these ‘ghost of Christmas future’ are trying to give some instruction. In the case of Hurley, who seem to have a more enhanced radar continues these visions off island with Dave, AL, Mr. Eko, Charlie. Some think that the island is inhabiting these bodies to convey messages. That would take us in the sci-fi horror land. I agree that Locke is not dead, but his conscientious has been sent elsewhere in his past and therefore ‘looks’ dead. [Ben owns the funeral parlor and why not, he was a vet in London] Device ‘magic box’ that Ben took out of the air vent may be how ‘moves’ back and forth from the abbey. So in LA he is taking a nap, but moving along future string event.
January 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
so far, the only people we know that are constants are Desmond and Daniel, Desmond and Penny. There are other possibilities. We need a constant for Charlotte (Dan seems to know this and is working on it). Locke will need a constant to be brought back to ‘life.’ [I’m not a believer in the spider theory} Ben must know his. We have only seen constants in the form of people, but it well may be an object. The mobisodes lead me to believe this is a possibility. Minkowsiki and others on the freighter did not know theirs and died at that point along their life string.
The island must have a constant(s) so that it stops shifting. Does it have an inventory/an accounting of souls before the wheel is turned?
What about our missing Jen?
Also, I am not a time loop fan. However, I think that we are going to see subtle changes in events, but that events in the past will play out as seen. What is interesting in Pilot 1 episode is Jack first appearance at the beach. Maybe he just got a new memory from his constant and now has a mission to find someone in the wreckage. He does pass by any number of hurt individuals on the beach (would a doctor do that). And he is clearly looking for someone specific.
Lots of fun.
November 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
oh and with Desmond think of it like, at that point in the “past” he hadn't yet met all them and didn't have his “the constant episode” yet so in the time line he hadn't yet gone back in time even tho in the over all picture of things he ends up doing that, Dan is saying that when you go back in time what you did is what happened so that meeting outside the hatch would be the first time they met , the time at oxford would have been second. Dan actually used Desmond as a constant first. so the theory is that time is Linear but not the sense of linear most of us understand
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